The lurching forward happens while accelerating from a stop position. The differences are that the smg has a hydraulic pump and electronicscomputers to automate the clutch. I own both an smg and a manual e46 m3 and without doubt i prefer smg. I convert a 2006 competition package bmw m3 smg to manual transmission. You might see if theres any truth to this for your car.
The smg ii found in the e46 m3 is based heavily on the getrag. An inherently lessefficient automatic dressed up with manual shift buttons or a slightly jerkyshifting manual transmission with robotized shifting. Folks here try to explain how to work them, but really do not know about either one. Anyways, switch to manual for a small straight, hit up to 75ish mph for a total of about 30 seconds in manual. It is somewhat complicated to work on, but we had success.
Hopefully ive dispelled a few myths about the contraversial smg m3. You command it to shift and actuates the correct hydraulic system to select that gear. Also it has a sport drive mode, basically an automatic mode. Whats the difference between the old smg in the e46 m3 and the dct in the e9x series bmw m3. I just joined this forum a few days ago and am shopping for an e60 m5.
Smg is not the same as automatic nor is it the same as a manual. The e46 m3 had a couple major issues, one of the lesser ones is the smg gearbox. Ok, maybe your grandmothers glaucoma is an overblown reason for her to get legal herbs, but thats beside the. Mar 17, 2009 when the switch isnt closed, the transmission wont shift thats why you cant shift gears if the hood is open. Note we can help you locate any used bmw m3 transmission even if you dont see it listed on this page.
Instead, the only transmission available for the tunedup roadster will be bmws sixspeed manual transmission. A smg transmission is really no more than a manual transmission with a electrohyadraulic shifter. Gear 300 manual transmission differential fluid 75w90 1 liter. The smg transmission is sometimes not shifting to the next gear. Whilst those who prefer manual will argue that it is more involving, it is when you push on in the e46 m3 that smg really. This product is made of highquality components to meet and exceed strict quality. Ltr concerning a defect of the sequential manual gear transmission on the leased 2003 bmw m3. There is no torque converter, like the manual or need for the clutch. The bmw m3 is a highperformance version of the bmw 3 series, developed by bmws. E46 m3 smg to manual conversion part 2 sticky post by tfryan on april 1, 2016 over the past few weeks, a lot has happened since the e46 entered the shop doors. To make the bmw sporty and appeal to those drivers that love a manual transmission, bmw has developed an automatic transmission called the steptronic.
If this happens to a car you own it often make sense to convert the car to a manual rather than fix the smg unit. Jun 19, 2010 smg stands for sequential manual gearbox. Common symptoms of a bad hydraulic unit include, but are not limited to. Nv 1500, nv 3500, 19982004 manual transmission gls mopar pn 4874464. Loaner pilot bearing puller attachment loaner slide hammer manuals.
Manual transmission fluid application guide carquest auto parts. Cars like the e46 m3 had an smg sequential gearbox, but it was so hated that you really had to want or need a two pedal car in order to consider buying one. May 22, 2006 smg is not the same as automatic nor is it the same as a manual. As well, in pictures i cannot locate the paddle shifters on the steering wheel. Check out my main channel shoplifetv for the tutorial on how. The pump and pressure sensors in your vehicle may be getting weak, so when you command the gear to change it take a little while for the pump to build the.
Mar 22, 2011 2004 bmw m3 it started yesterday, when all of the sudden my smg when off gear, the gear number started to blink and the transmission yellow light turned on. This transmission uses regular clutch, the same clutch you have to work with your left foot in a fully manual car only they use two clutches, one for even gears and. We warranty our entire used m3 manual or automatic transmissions with a minimum 6months to 2years depending on the specific m3 transmission assembly. The smg computer is removed and all smg components are unplugged. This transmission uses regular clutch, the same clutch you have to work with your left foot in a fully manual car only they use two clutches, one for even gears and one for odd for quicker shifting and easier rev matching. Nothing about this transmission is inherently different, inside the case, everything is the same. The sequential manual gearbox, or smg is a manual transmission that acts like an automatic. Most of the descriptions exclude mention of the smg and simply refer to it as a manual transmission. Yet the driver can choose to have the car shift automatically for him. I am the owner of a 2003 m3 equipped with the smgii transmission xxx.
While driving under load the little yellow indicator light with a gear came on. It sounds kind of like a bad manual driver not using the clutch well and ramming and grinding the gears. The transmission and gearbox is actually the same between the 6mt and the smg. When you move the knob down, the transmission will shift into a higher gear. Far more easiercheaper to maintain, and most importantly, only people who can drive a manual get to drive the car. Its essentially a transmission capable of functioning as an automatic, or functioning as a manual transmission. Other power train related problems of the 2004 bmw m3. I wanted a manual, but had a limited budget, so i got a mazda protege 5, which i consider an economy car. Bmw z4 automatic transmission with green tag transmission 2004, mb 236. Im intersted in purchasing an m3, between 20032005 model year, and am unsure if they all include the smg transmission. As someone previously mentioned there is no clutch so basically it has a manual mode in which you change the gears yourself by pushing the throttle up or down. Page 3 e46fanatics i personally, would still recommend a a 6 mt over a smg. Bmw m3 pov hd smg tourhow to use the smg transmission bmw m3 pov drives.
I have a 2005 smg m3 with comp package and 22k on the odometer. Occurs on any day where temperatures exceed 95 degrees. The clutch switch and brake switch must be installed and wired appropriately to retain the function of a true manual transmission e46 m3. Huge thanks to streetxtreme for providing this m3 for todays video. E46 m3 smg to manual conversion part 2 tfworks blog. E46 m3 smg to manual conversion lang racing development. Instead, the transmission slips into neutral and the engine freerevs often past redline. Ford mustang gt vs dodge challenger scat pack car comparison. Lang racing development bmw and porsche specialists 1,863 views. A high revving straight six with beautifully tuned individual throttle bodies, boasts an impressive 333hp, with nimble handling, an aggressive stance and body design that still competes with todays exotic cars. Bmw m3 pov hdsmg ii tourhow to use the smg transmission. The innovation is that, when functioning as an automatic, the driver does not need to operate a clutch pedal, simply designate desired gear. Feb 10, 2008 im intersted in purchasing an m3, between 20032005 model year, and am unsure if they all include the smg transmission. Which in this car is the sixspeed smg sequential manual gearbox.
Auto manual popular in mid level european cars such as vw and up. Switch back to auto, and about 30 seconds later the light comes on of a cog with an. I heard the 6 spd is faster which seems untrue since the smg switches through the gears faster than most or all people can. The light on the dash just blinks the gear it is supposed to go in but the shift doesnt happen. The smg transmission was praised for its fast shift times and operation in. With so many automatic transmission fluids, its hard to choose the one best suited for each vehicle. In order for cruise control, pdc, and the reverse light to function the car must be wired and recoded as a manual car.
You can view their inventory, including the listing to this m3, at. Bmw z4 to drop smg automated manual transmission autoblog. In 2004, sports car international named the e30 m3 car number six on the list of top. I drive both a manual car and an smg car and i find the smg car to be fun in very different way. High mileage smg check in e46fanatics also a thread of a guy who did a smg manual transmission swap. Smg the least likely for the common man to ever come accross. To continue searching our inventory, please select the year of your vehicle. Discussion in e46 m3 20012006 started by keca10, mar 17, 2009. Manual vs auto vs cvt vs smg vs steptronic vs home.
When you want fine control over gear selection, you can work your way through the gears, and the transmission will automatically engage clutches to make the change in gears as you shift. As a matter of fact, when some customers do have issues with the smg, they will opt for a manual conversion. Oct 29, 2007 well, the bmw m3 does not have an automatic transmission. Smg wont go into gear at random times bmw cca forum. Lets start off by saying that i live in a small country, so there are approximately 4560 e46 m3s for sale at any given time. I wanted to get opinions on the smg vs the manual 6 spd. After this i turn the engine off and back on and wouldnt go into gear, then with the engine off i put it in gear and it worked, however when i push the car to 4000 rpm or more it doesnt. Did some googling, it means that the automatic transmission has. On hot days the transmission with pop out of gear and into neutral for about 1530 seconds before reengaging into the appropriate gear.
This transmission has three modes, including a comfortable drive mode. Handsdown, it is the number one brand of high performance lubricant for bmws. The e46 m3 came in two different transmission variations. The latest addition to the tf fleet is a 2004 bmw m3, stock car with a csl type bumper, sub100k miles and the smg transmission.
Those hydraulics are the biggest point of failure with the smgs and why most people who really care about maintenance tend to steer clear from them. Everything needed for the conversion is already in place on the transmission. Bmw e46 m3 smg to 6spd manual conversion bmws e46 m3 is arguably the best m car to date. May 12, 2009 folks here try to explain how to work them, but really do not know about either one.
Bmw m3 smg to six speed manual conversion eurompire. Its the same manual gearbox that, instead of having the clutch foot operated, has the clutch electrohydaulically. The hydraulic pump often fails resulting in a costly repair. Manual e46 m3 s tend to be more desirable and cost quite a bit more than manual m3 s. The problem first started when i moved it into reverse and the display would just flash n or r on different occasions, if i put it into 1st or 2nd the car was driveable with. Car not engaging 1st or reverse after start up, drops out of 1st gear, or wont start weak remote key. Plenty, the dct is a complete evolution above the smg, watch the video and comment below. Smg shifting problem will not go away bmw cca forum. At an area cruise night, i swear i showed the m3 to a couple of. Electrohydraulic manual transmission, also known as clutchless manual, or automated manual, is a type of semiautomatic transmission system, closely related to a manual transmission, which uses an electronically actuated, automated clutch mechanism with hydraulic activation, unlike conventional manual transmissions where the driver operates the clutch manually. Jan, 20 smg is standards on the e46 m3,mostly optionally available the the first gen z40308 and the e460005 non m, rumor said it is also available on late e36 m3, but i never saw one, models that do not have smg available, x5x37 are for sure. E46m3oemoils e46 m3 oem transmission and differential oils. The bmw also has paddle shifters located on the steering wheel.
Hi guys, i have a problem with selecting gears on both auto and manual. Manual e46 m3s tend to be more desirable and cost quite a bit more than manual m3s. He said the transmission is pretty robust, it wasnt the syncro in this case, it was the hood switch that was intermittently sending openclosed signals to the transmission. Automanual popular in mid level european cars such as vw and up. I think dodge had a manumatic in the stratus a few years ago, adopted from mercedes technology. If you need durable gaskets to prevent leaks on your vehicle, felpro is the. The smg transmission in a 2004 bmw m3 will randomly shift into neutral disabling the vehicle on hot days without warning. Apr 15, 2016 smg to manual conversion on the e46 m3 lang racing development duration. It may or may not shift into the same gear on the next. An faq for the commonly misunderstood bmw smg ii transmission. Move the knob up, and the transmission will shift into a lower gear. But all of you are missing out on fantastic vehicles because people with no experience with the system love to perpetuate the myth that the transmission murders puppies and gave your grandmother glaucoma.
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